User talk:Robkelk

New posts at the bottom of the page, please.

Go check the front page of ATT, check "Other Sites We Recommend"
I figure one good turn deserves another, and since you've helped out so much at ATT, I decided to give you guys a little exposure.

Hope it helps. ^_^ GethN7 (talk) 14:40, 11 September 2014 (BST)


 * Thanks! That was unexpected, and appreciated. --Robkelk (talk) 23:33, 11 September 2014 (BST)

Query About the Star Wars Resources Page
Is that one someone's special stomping ground or are others welcome to sweep in and add freebies to the listing so long as the format matches the established page order?

--Wayii (talk) 4:23 PM 20 September 2014 (EST)


 * Have at it - I just tossed a few items on there to start it off. All of the pages I started are fair game for everyone to update (unless I locked them for administrative reasons). --Robkelk (talk) 22:08, 20 September 2014 (BST)

(blog) Must ... control ... myself ...
The folks over on All The Tropes and the Fenspace wiki can tell you how much I dislike seeing links to Wanted Pages on a wiki.

Right now, we have more Wanted Pages than we have pages ...

I don't have time to write them all ...

Aargh!!!

--Robkelk (talk) 02:50, 24 September 2014 (BST)


 * You're welcome. ;)  It will take many weeks with my current regular activities to fill in a page for every freebie I've cataloged but now you don't have to tic on it while I work.--Wayii (talk) 12:05AM, 24 September 2014 (EST)


 * The current server issues (periodic "403 Forbidden" errors across the entire wiki) don't help, either. --Robkelk (talk) 22:51, 24 September 2014 (BST)


 * I'm afraid that's out of my scope of expertise. :(  --Wayii (talk) 00:35, 25 September 2014 (BST)


 * The server bobbles should be finished by the end of this week - that's when Orain plans to have all of their servers upgraded. If we still have issues after that, then we worry. --Robkelk (talk) 02:39, 25 September 2014 (BST)


 * I may not be the greatest contributor, but I while do my part whenever possible (once the glitches are gone, right now I can't edit 'my' pages without the beta, but I can't view them with the beta... a catch 22 situation LoL ) --Glaseye (talk) 18:25, 25 September 2014 (BST)


 * Don't feel bad. I can't edit any of my mountain of pages or upload any of the images I've made while waiting for the glitching to end.  When it does finally end it's going to be an upload orgy.  >.<  --Wayii (talk)
 * Ouch, server overload pending..... :-) --Glaseye (talk) 14:07, 27 September 2014 (BST)
 * Any time now, if things go according to schedule... but I still can't update the page for Laura, so not just yet. --Robkelk (talk) 14:09, 27 September 2014 (BST)

Found a dead link? Tag it!
I've just installed the "dead link" template - please tag dead links with when you find them. --Robkelk (talk) 15:16, 5 October 2014 (BST)

Sorry - but I rolled back your edit - the Pidgisplanet link is not dead. It works fine for me! --Kerya 22 January 2015
 * That's fine. This is exactly why we should use the "dead link" tag instead of deleting links - the problem with the site might be temporary! --Robkelk (talk) 03:21, 23 January 2015 (GMT)

(blog) Why I chose the header-and-entry format for lists
Since it's come up...

There are many ways to create lists in MediaWiki - some are better at certain tasks, others are better at different tasks.

For a list of freebies, where there are multiple places to download some items and add-ons for other items, the "create a page for each freebie and make index pages for types or themes of freebies" format works best - and that's what I'm hoping this wiki will become in time. But we're nowhere near that stage yet (the freebies for some of Nusoda's figures have the individual pages, and the anime resources page has the index format). Getting there will take months if not years.

The "header-and-entry" format works second-best. If a freebie can be found on ShareCG, Renderosity, and the creator's website, we don't have to choose one link; we can list them all. If there's a few dozen texture packs for a dress (the way there are for Galadriel, Rococo, or the MFD), they can be included in the entry - no need to force someone to look all over the page (or, worse, multiple pages) for the "complete package."

Thus, the list looks like this:
 * Example
 * http://example.com or http://example.org
 * add-on: http://example.net

We could have done this: However, that isn't as clear as the format I did choose - it looks like it's three different items, instead of three parts of one item.
 * Example
 * Example
 * Example add-on

It isn't a perfect list format; it takes up a lot of room (and that means more scrolling up and down the screen), and there's a lot of duplication when a freebie belongs on more than one list. But I thought the benefits outweigh the drawbacks, so that's what I went with.

--Robkelk (talk) 20:37, 5 October 2014 (BST)

(blog) I'm flattered, but ... why?
I just looked at my own ShareCG gallery page. I have four followers. I have only one download - a texture set for the ribbons in one of Redviper's hairdos - so why do I have followers?

--Robkelk (talk) 01:33, 7 October 2014 (BST)

(blog) brain hurts...
Just added a load of content to the NearMe page. Deciphering Google's mechanical translation of Pixiv pages hurts... But, hey, I found a couple of items for the Anime-style Resources page, and was able to positively identify one of the hairdos on Kerya's list. --Robkelk (talk) 02:06, 11 October 2014 (BST)

Moved from the top of the page
Hi,

I sorted Gen2F Morphs in alphabetical order, is it fine?

--EnigmaticOxygen (talk)


 * Why did you change the names? Changing "Kururu for Genesis 2 Female DAZ Studio 4.6" to "Kururu" is especially bad, since we already have a page named "Kururu". --Robkelk (talk) 21:48, 14 October 2014 (BST)

I did? Hmm... It must have got deleted mistakenly - I was furiously copy-pasting stuff into categories. I think it should be Kururu Morph or something like that.

--EnigmaticOxygen (talk)


 * It should be "Kururu for Genesis 2 Female DAZ Studio 4.6", because that's what its creator named it. It doesn't matter what we think. --Robkelk (talk) 15:20, 16 October 2014 (BST)

Hi,

no problem regarding Gen2M links, it happens. I compiled Behemoth, Goblin and Behemoth 2. But I am afraid at the moment, grouping poses for Dawn or Gen2F as suggested won't work. There are too few of those and these available are mixed packs.

--EnigmaticOxygen (talk)


 * In those cases, just use alphabetical order. --Robkelk (talk) 13:15, 7 October 2014 (BST)

I have the Deco page filled out with all the links I have. The Koshini page will take longer (many more links) and it'll take me awhile to rebuild the Little One list.

Sorry, got the sig figured out now.

--Semicharm (talk) 23:03, 29 August 2014 (BST)

(blog) I suppose we were lucky it took this long ...
I just banned our first spammer, and deleted its "contributions". We've been running for two months and public for almost that long, so I suppose this is a good record. (Imagine what the place would have looked like if we hadn't restricted editing to people with accounts...) --Robkelk (talk) 12:51, 21 October 2014 (BST)

(blog) I've started a lot of pages...
... and it seems whenever I do start a page, nobody else wants to add to it.

That isn't how wikis are supposed to work.

If you see that I started a page, don't be disappointed that you can't work on that page any more. Go ahead and work on the page! There's a note on the Main Page: "The contribution of even a single link to a free item that we've missed is appreciated."

And there's a note on the edit box of every page: "If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." Since I submitted words here, I'm okay with them being edited mercilessly - added to, preferably. Don't worry about stepping on my toes.

--Robkelk (talk) 21:42, 25 October 2014 (BST)


 * Hey now, I edit your stuff all the time LOL!... I edit anytime I know there's a hole somewhere. Sometimes (like with the Dryad Leaves stuff) I'll even create a page off your page to just cross the item off my own list since my work often overlaps with everyone else's.  I'm big on taking you at your word.  :D  Wayii (talk) 22:03, 25 October 2014 (BST)


 * Have I given you a barnstar for that yet? 8) I'd like everyone else to embrace the wiki spirit, too. --Robkelk (talk) 22:05, 25 October 2014 (BST)
 * LOL I got Barnstarred my first week for "tireless contribution". Hee hee!  But yeah, not my first wiki rodeo and once my kitchen reno is done I'll be picking the pace back up to the former huge data entry levels again.Wayii (talk) 22:09, 25 October 2014 (BST)
 * It was a hectic first week - you, Kerya, Eustace, and I were all "tireless" that week. Barnstars are harder to get nowadays. --Robkelk (talk) 22:24, 25 October 2014 (BST)
 * Maybe once I finish out the last of the Nursoda pages and move on to FemaSu, Frogkin, Nan Fredman's catalog, Jim Farris' catalog and my personal misc. freebie catalog.Wayii (talk) 23:14, 25 October 2014 (BST)

Hello
Saw your note on my talk page. I'm Jim Farris, the guy who made the "Dryad Leaves" stuff, amongst other random poser paraphenalia. Hopefully Wayii has already told you about me. Or, at least, warned you of my existence. ;-) Xaa (talk) 14:17, 4 November 2014 (GMT)
 * As far as I'm concerned, we could use a lot more people like you... 8) --Robkelk (talk) 00:17, 5 November 2014 (GMT)

(blog) Trivia of the day
As of this posting, we have pages for 110 distinct figures. Of those 110, 24 have separate pages for wardrobe, 12 have pages for morphs and expressions, 12 (not the same list) have pages for poses, 6 have pages for hair, and 4 have pages for character textures. The only figure with all five subpages is Aiko 3.

(The things I find to keep myself amused while ShareCG is down...)

--Robkelk (talk) 14:58, 9 November 2014 (GMT)

Solstice lists / advent list
Just a thought, and seeing if it is desired for the wiki. December is getting close, and that usually means that various sites, and individuals, have their xmas goodies available. Some of these freebies are only available for a short time. Hunting down those freebies can be a challenge. I know that Kerya kept a list of links to the various sites that offer the goodies (at the DAZ3D forums). I myself have done that at Faeriewylde the past few years. Should we do something like that here as well? (Assuming there will be goodies of course, there seem to be an ever decreasing number of participants willing or able to create the solstice freebies, for various reasons)

(now of to the 'page needing image' list: got some test renders to do, so a good excuse to get some of those pages of the list......)

--Glaseye (talk) 18:06, 11 November 2014 (GMT)


 * That's a good question ... I like the idea of listing limited-time freebies, but I don't have the time to take them off the list once they're not available any more. If you're willing to do that, though, I'd be happy to add a "Limited-time Freebies" link to the site's menu. --Robkelk (talk) 18:09, 11 November 2014 (GMT)

I can do that... and after the event has ended relocate the links that are not time limited to the appropriate pages... --Glaseye (talk) 18:16, 11 November 2014 (GMT)

Okay - page created and added to the sidebar. Thanks! --Robkelk (talk) 18:24, 11 November 2014 (GMT)

Wiki Policy - Draft for Discussion
Poser and Daz Studio Free Resources Wiki:Policy

Comments on that page's Talk page, please.

--Robkelk (talk) 23:43, 13 November 2014 (GMT)

Would you mind terribly much...
...if I replaced the Victoria 3 image you made? Xaa (talk) 13:40, 22 November 2014 (GMT)
 * I wouldn't mind at all. But don't overwrite it - I'm using the same image on the Morphing Fantasy Dress page. --Robkelk (talk) 15:34, 22 November 2014 (GMT)
 * Done, did not over-write. =) Xaa (talk) 18:17, 22 November 2014 (GMT)

Categories
You've probably seen them - the line of categories along the bottom of each page. They're useful when somebody's looking for things that are like what they're looking at (assuming the right categories are on each page, of course.) But they're also useful for something less obvious.

Every page currently on the wiki (not including User and Talk pages) has at least one category. (We have a page with 73 categories, but that's an extreme case. Currently, the median is 4 categories.)

This means that, as long as we add at least one category to each new on-topic page (again, not including User and Talk pages), any page on the Uncategorized Pages report will be spam.

So, whenever you create a new page, make sure it has categories! Don't load up on categories - just use the ones (or one) that actually makes sense to be on your new page.

--Robkelk (talk) 20:38, 23 November 2014 (GMT)


 * Righto, will do. Xaa (talk) 20:59, 23 November 2014 (GMT)

(blog) One site down...
Each freebie on the Faerie Dreams site now has its own page here. (Note that this doesn't include Faeriewylde.) Some of the pages even have images - thanks for the assist here, Xaa!

I'm still working on the EvilInnocence freebies. Maybe they'll be done by the end of the calendar year. Maybe.

--Robkelk (talk) 02:27, 28 November 2014 (GMT)


 * Goodness, you're quite welcome, but I was merely following along behind in the "Recent Changes" page, doing quick renders of stuff I actually have and posting it. =) Xaa (talk) 04:09, 28 November 2014 (GMT)

(blog) Sadie joins Laura...
... in having a sortable Wardrobe list and individual pages for each of her wardrobe items. Pity I couldn't find where those two freebies from fantasiesattic went, though. --Robkelk (talk) 01:53, 8 December 2014 (GMT)

Famous People and the morphs that make figures look like them
After looking at the relevant laws in Ontario, I have made a policy decision for the wiki. (Maybe it's an over-reaction, but the end-result is still useful, I think.)

Celebrities have particular rights of personality that average people don't, including the right to control their own likenesses. This means that there are circumstances where a morph that turns a figure into a celebrity should not be used for commercial purposes, even if the morph's license allows for commercial use. (As an example, selling a render that implies a famous singer uses a particular brand of microphone might get the artist into trouble - especially if the singer has signed a contract to use a different brand of microphone.)

We can't stop people from misusing freebies, but we can make things clear up front that this is an issue. Thus, I've decided that all celebrity morphs should be listed on the Famous People page, not on the various figures' pages.

We probably have some links to move to the Famous People page...

--Robkelk (talk) 19:56, 28 December 2014 (GMT)

New toy!
https://poserdazfreebies.orain.org/wiki/Special:MultiUpload

For uploading multiple images at once. --Robkelk (talk) 23:00, 1 January 2015 (GMT)

Dawn/Morphs Overhaul
I just gave the Dawn/Morphs page a serious overhaul today. I'm fairly confident that it's in fairly decent shape now. I'm not certain if any of the remaining characters is an analog of any famous person or IP but the one I did discover (Bow = Clara Bow), I moved to the famous persons page per the new(ish) policy. I had to change a lot of names to the author-used package names. This should clear up a good bit of user confusion going forward. I have also appended a (PS) or (DS) to listings as a preliminary way of differentiating between platform-exclusive packs. Would it be more appropriate for me to create separate subgroups for these rather than appending the (DS)/(PS) designation to the pack names? If so I can easily winnow them out and subgroup them.

Wayii (talk) 22:11, 10 January 2015 (GMT)


 * Thanks for putting in all that work! As for the PS/DS split, the way I've seen it handled on other sites is the same way you did it here, so let's go with that to avoid confusion. --Robkelk (talk) 22:19, 10 January 2015 (GMT)


 * Okay, cool. I guess I can remove the in need of attention mark from it then.  You're very welcome.  I'll have to poke at some of the other rats' nests soon. :D Wayii (talk) 22:29, 10 January 2015 (GMT)


 * Got a good start on detangling and standardizing the K4 Wardrobe page. It is now conforming more to the format being used on the Aiko and V4 wardrobe pages with the clothing arranged by type.  Managed to add some good classic stuff that was missing from the list and fleshed out jumbled listings like Sanbie's K4 offerings, which really needed more than the All Sanbie's K4 zips entry they had (end users wouldn't know to look there for something they got a specific texture for and realized they didn't have the mesh).  This page still needs some serious love and attention but I simply don't have more to give tonight.

(blog) One Thousand Content Pages
We just hit content page #1,000. Here it is.

We have so many, many pages to go...

--Robkelk (talk) 01:40, 16 January 2015 (GMT)

(blog) That was fun... No, I lie. That was horrid. But something good came of it.
In case you don't make a habit of looking at the Main Page ... We had a spam flood today. A big one. Over 500 spam pages, on a wiki that only has about 1000 content pages.

Luckily, I know a guy at Orain, and he was able to stop the influx of spam - but we still had to clean it out and block the accounts so they couldn't be used again. And only admins can delete pages or block accounts.

So ... at least for now, Wayii is also an admin here. I had been considering offering Wayii those rights and responsibilities for a while now, then the spam flood came and I had no choice but to force the rights on Wayii. Now that the crisis is over, we're going to leave things as they are and see what happens.

--Robkelk (talk) 03:27, 23 January 2015 (GMT)


 * Because of this mess, Orain has actioned a request that I put in a couple of months ago. As of an hour after I posted the above entry, Users who are not Confirmed can edit existing pages but cannot create new pages. This means that one has to add actual content to many existing pages here (or be known to a Bureaucrat - meaning me) in order to earn the right to add new pages. I've made sure that everyone who has contributed actual content here (even if it's only one link) is Confirmed. --Robkelk (talk) 13:51, 23 January 2015 (GMT)
 * Just posting a quick update, learned this from my own experiences dealing with spammers. Any sleeper spam accounts created prior to this date that may have been created prior to the user permission change may slip through the cracks, but they should be few in number. Also, due to the server caching, it may take awhile for the user permission changes to propagate throughout the server, and you may need to import an abusefilter to keep anything else from slipping through the cracks, let me know if you need anything. GethN7 (talk) 18:30, 23 January 2015 (GMT)
 * I get a sneaking suspicion that that's what made submit freeze up when I went to add a link to the freebie sites section, to threednd.com, it froze up completely? If so, is posting this comment enough to be confirmed?Dodger (talk) 21:51, 2 March 2015 (GMT)
 * You should have seen an error message, not a complete freeze of the wiki ... Odd. But, yes, this is enough to get Confirmed status. welcome to the wiki! --Robkelk (talk) 00:18, 3 March 2015 (GMT)

Flood...
Before I continue, I want to make sure it's OK how much I'm adding right now. I'm putting everything on my site, and trying to find the right places for it. In one case, that led to me creating a whole new figure type, Non-humanoid AliensDodger (talk) 23:11, 12 March 2015 (GMT)


 * If it's a legal freebie entry (and considering the source and what I assume is the material, I'm sure it all is) it should be totally okay. Nobody here in their right mind is going to complain about large volumes of unique, valid freebie entries.  Wayii (talk) 00:05, 13 March 2015 (GMT)

Little Lost Page
Added a new page, please delete. Category:Cosplay:Figure Sorry about that I was trying to find a way to use a filter on a filter. The and statement equivalent to just get those figures that have cosplay categories. Failed miserably. You know how to do it? --DollyGirl 20.04.2015
 * Delete is limited to admins (I think), so only Wayii and I can do it. Done. --Robkelk (talk) 00:13, 21 April 2015 (BST)

Anyway to do an advanced selection of Categories
I am trying to find an example of using a Category statement on another Category. An example would be from the Category collection of Figure the subset cosplay. Do you or somebody know how to do this kind of thing? Thanks for taking care of the page. --DollyGirl 21.04.2015
 * I'm not sure whether this can be done with MediaWiki. I know that you can put a Category on a Category page, but that puts everything into the subcategory. --Robkelk (talk) 18:55, 21 April 2015 (BST)
 * Do you know of a forum or site with more documentation that I could look through? I did a search in the linked documentation here but all they discussed were the simple query for a single parameter. This is just an idea. I was thinking that if we could get more of the main list pages, like the figures page, to be auto generated it would reduce up-keep. --DollyGirl 21.04.2015
 * All I can suggest is MediaWiki's own Help pages. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories --Robkelk (talk) 19:53, 21 April 2015 (BST)
 * Thanks Rob. It is just an idea anyway. Don't want to complicate things either. So maybe best to leave it alone for now. Learn how to crawl first. --DollyGirl 21.04.2015

A category and link for P5 Don
So I cleaned up the P5 Don stuff but there is still a category page for "Don" and then on your request pages there is a request for "Don" since the figures list had him identified as P5 Don that is what I started with sorry about that. Can you delete these Don references and then we will have P5 Don all warped up. Thank you. --DollyGirl 24.04.2015
 * Done. --Robkelk (talk) 14:49, 25 April 2015 (BST)

I've added some "useful" text to the Freebiebox documentation
I've added a few sections to the documentation for Template:Freebiebox, listing text that often ends up in (or near) the box on freebie pages. Basically, it's there so we don't need to hunt for it repeatedly. --Robkelk (talk) 14:49, 25 April 2015 (BST)

A category and link for P5 Judy
So I cleaned up the Judy stuff but there is still a category page for "Judy" since the figures list had her identified as P5 Judy that is what I worked from. Can you please delete the Judy category and then we will have P5 Judy all warped up. Thank you. --DollyGirl 29.04.2015
 * Done. --Robkelk (talk) 23:58, 29 April 2015 (BST)

A category and link for GG3.1
So I went hunting for figure GG 3.1 found that it belongs to ali who no longer is providing the figure. Since it seems to have been a paid for I think we should remove the category page for GG 3.1 and clean up the other links. What do you think? I found the link to GG 3.1 here http://forums.poseraddicts.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=377. --DollyGirl 08.05.2015
 * I had to make a similar decision when I noticed Rosy Cheeks Lina wasn't available any more - what I decided was to list the RCL freebies anyway. (Somebody out there still has the figure...) I just moved Lina to the end of the Figures page. --Robkelk (talk) 16:36, 9 May 2015 (BST)

Logo
Hello, I've just stumbled across your wiki!

My name is NDKilla and I've been trying to handle feature requests at meta. Would you like your logo (in the top left) changed to File:FreebieWiki03.jpg? If you do, leave a note on my meta talk page, or the feature requests page on meta.

Cheers, NDKilla (talk) 21:15, 25 May 2015 (BST)


 * Thanks. I've been debating that since we went live a half-year ago. I'll get back to you reasonably soon... --Robkelk (talk) 13:43, 26 May 2015 (BST)


 * No rush! You might want to duplicate the file at a link like File:Logo.jpg so that when I set the site logo, you can replace the logo by re-uploading to that file. NDKilla (talk) 14:53, 26 May 2015 (BST)


 * Ready now. I've copied the image to File:Wikilogo.jpg - apparently, logo.jpg hard-redirects to name.jpg --Robkelk (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2015 (BST)

(blog) I just doubled my contributions to ShareCG
Which, I'll grant, isn't difficult when "doubling" means "uploading a second freebie"...

Cheerleader for Texture Challenge 51

That gives those four people following me something new to look at!

--Robkelk (talk) 23:55, 13 June 2015 (BST)

I did some research on Teresa AnimeAlice Natalia 3
I went hunting for these three models. I found no mention of a model for these three. I think Teresa is a character for Posette. I don't think AnimeAlice is a figure but might be a character for the V4 character by Aeon Soul. I don't have any insight on Natalia 3. What do you want me to do on those? --DollyGirl 29.06.2015
 * Hmmmmm... I suspect you're right about them being characters, not figures. If we can confirm that, then let's make character pages for the (the way I did with AoA's Paola Character) and get them off the list that way. --Robkelk (talk) 00:37, 30 June 2015 (BST)
 * There is a figure called Nata (free) by Smay ... http://smay3d.com/free_01.htm I don't know whether that helps?

Teresa is a character for V3 - not free: http://www.daz3d.com/teresa-character AnimeAlice was, as far as I remember, Aerysoul's (now AlfaSeed's) Alice with Aiko4 dialed in to a certain percentage. --Kerya 30.06.2015 Thank you Kerya two down and one more to go. I think Nata is something different but I will keep her on the table so to speak. I might go ask on the forums and see if I get a response from one of the old timers or shoot off a message to 3Dream. So I will go make pages for the other two. --DollyGirl 30.06.2015