User talk:Robkelk

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And We're Back!
Well, back as of Mid-June - we've lost thee months of updates.

We're good to go now... --Robkelk (talk) 18:26, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * While we still don't have all the content back, I think we now know almost everything that we're missing. At least we know what to work on while we aren't adding new content to the wiki. --Robkelk (talk) 19:24, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


 * With the loading of the previously-lost pages from June and July 2015, I suspect we now have all the pages we're going to get from any offline source. Everything else that's missing, we'll have to re-create. --Robkelk (talk) 01:14, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

All pages exported - Wiki Backup
The last time (UTC) I exported the entire text to my home computer was: 20160207170730

The last time (UTC) I exported the images to my home computer was: 20160227163200

This is less important to do, now that the wiki hosting service is taking regular backups of the wiki: https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/issues/48#issuecomment-202352846


 * Question: how do I create a backup, at least for a page with subpages that I heavily edited just now (See V1-2 wardrobe)? --Kerya (talk) 06.06.2016


 * Here's the step-by-step:
 * Make a list of the names of the pages and subpages that you want to back up, with only one pagename on a line. (Special:AllPages is an alphabetical list of all pagenames; the names in italics are redirects to other pages.)
 * Make sure you're logged in, and surf to Special:Export
 * Ignore the box "Add pages from category". Copy that list you made in step 1, and paste it into the big box. The default settings for the three checkboxes are good if you want the current pages - if you want the edit history as well, uncheck "Include only the current revision, not the full history"
 * Click on "Export", and save the file.
 * That will give you an XML file, which somebody who knows HTML can use to make a text file. It will not save the images - you'll have to save those one at a time. --Robkelk (talk) 13:43, 6 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the step by step! --Kerya (talk) 7 June 2016

Wiki import
1.26 upgrade is planned at the ~24th. If you have luck, I can import some pages before the 31th (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, btw.) - otherwise it will happen in January. Hopefully that's fine for you. Southparkfan (talk) 17:48, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That's fine, thanks. I'll take an export before the 24th, just in case. --Robkelk (talk) 00:33, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Export has been taken. --Robkelk (talk) 16:47, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Another export has been taken - less than ten minutes before the maintenance window. This talk page should be the only page on the wiki that is not backed up to the current revision. --Robkelk (talk) 15:55, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Bug filed: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123075. I hope it gets solved soon, otherwise you won't get the backup running. Southparkfan (talk) 17:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Robkelk, please look at https://poserdazfreebiestest.miraheze.org. Please make me aware of any errors. If you think that nothing went wrong in the import process here, then we can schedule a read-only period for the real Poserdaz and Freebies Wiki so I can import this XML dump. Southparkfan (talk) 12:57, 10 January 2016 (UTC)S
 * I did some spot-checks, and everything seems good to me. I'll take another export of the text anyway, just in case. As for scheduling a read-only period, our busiest periods for updating are 05:00-09:00 UTC and 23:00-01:00 UTC - the 23:00-01:00 period is primarily my update window, so we can use that if necessary. --Robkelk (talk) 17:03, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The latter period is (for me) 00:00-02:00, and that's unacceptably late for me. This update needs to happen at a Friday or Saturday between 18:30 and 20:30 UTC +0. The wiki would only need 30 minutes read-only time (5 minutes backup, 20 minutes import, 5 minutes checking). Southparkfan (talk) 17:34, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was unclear - the times I gave are the times when we make most of updates to the content. Putting the wiki into read-only mode on Friday between 18:30 and 20:30 UTC +0 should not be an issue. (Saturday between 18:30 and 20:30 UTC +0 might or might not be an issue.) --Robkelk (talk) 00:40, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you schedule a final date (and notify me about it)? And put it in the sitenotice too, obviously. Southparkfan (talk) 14:27, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll schedule Friday, 22 January between 18:30 and 20:30 UTC +0 for the import. --Robkelk (talk) 00:15, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I've just taken an export of the entire wiki as it stands now, just in case. --Robkelk (talk) 14:00, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Not needed Previllages
You have added yourself to the groups "autopatrolled, confirmed and rollbacker", which are not required as you get them within the "administrator" previllages.
 * My rights were like that when the wiki was set up. Oh, and welcome to the wiki - do you have any links to share? --Robkelk (talk) 17:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Site-loading issues via phone
First, I want to say that an external forum is not the proper way to report bugs, we have a wiki for that. Anyway, the errors are interesting: it seems that your BlackBerry lacks SNI support. SNI is a very useful thing that allows us to have multiple SSL certificates hosted on a server with one IP. Extra server IPs (at least $5/month per site and a lot of trouble with RIPE) or SAN (depending whether GlobalSign wants to give us SAN certs for free, this can costs literally hundreds of dollars each year, even if we wouldn't go with GlobalSign) are not an option for Miraheze. We have our *.miraheze.org certificate set as the "default_server", which means that even clients without SNI support can use HTTPS for *.miraheze.org wikis.

For example, the Wikimedia Foundation has a very, very rare SAN certificate (used on all wikis). If you visit the English Wikipedia, you'll notice that it just works.

If I have to believe the Wikipedia article, it looks like SNI support was introduced in BlackBerry OS 7.2. If possible, you should update your OS to make use of SNI.

HSTS is a mechanism we enable via server headers, which is used to protect our users (on all domains - including *.miraheze.org and allthetropes.org) from certain attacks. Our HSTS policy has a max-age of 28 days (which means that HSTS will be in effect until 28 days), which is why even disabling HSTS for allthetropes.org wouldn't really make sense yet. HSTS also prohibits the usage of invalid certs, which is why you can't 'click this error away'.

Please let me know if you are able to fix this issue. Southparkfan (talk) 14:01, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * First, if the issue was with this wiki, I would have reported it through meta. I'm not the person who should be reporting technical issues for allthetropes - GethN7 is, and my contact for him is through that external forum.


 * Second, Blackberry OS 7 never had a version 7.2 - development stopped at 7.1, and IIRC that was a beta. It looks to me that Wikipedia needs an update.


 * I fully support using HSTS. I remember what happened to Orain. I will live with not being able to access allthetropes on my cellphone. --Robkelk (talk) 14:35, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I have discovered while testing various anti-virus software that the latest version of Avast! working with the latest version of Firefox also does not like HSTS. I have uninstalled Avast!, but others might be wondering why they cannot access the site. --Robkelk (talk) 15:23, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Multi-upload tool?
Is there any chance of getting the multi-upload tool back now that we're settled in on miraheze? I must admit I don't know much about how that sort of thing is done.--Fielran (talk) 02:20, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure - Miraheze is more security-conscious than Orain was (for good reason), so they don't allow all of the extensions that we used to be able to get. And I know they have a backlog of requests ... but I can ask. --Robkelk (talk) 15:14, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I have asked. --Robkelk (talk) 15:36, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Official reply: "MultiUpload is currently disabled on all wikis, because it's breaking things and it is currently unmaintained." We're looking into alternates. --Robkelk (talk) 12:31, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * We have a replacement! Edit a page - the "Drop files here" box at the top of the edit window is a multi-file upload tool. --Robkelk (talk) 13:05, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

ironman links
Hey Rob on the wayback links I only get the can't display page due to robot text. So maybe you being in Canada can see it but me in the USA can not. Maybe we should have a talk with ironman and see what we can do about re-establishing a home for them or just retire the pages if we can't. Lonnie
 * That's odd - I checked the links from two different computers before I posted them. (Both in Canada, true.) And, yes, we should get in touch with ironman about them... --Robkelk (talk) 23:16, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Page cannot be displayed due to robots.txt. - I am in Germany ... --Kerya (talk) 19 June 2016
 * And now I'm seeing the same message. Sending a Rendo sitemail to ironman13... --Robkelk (talk) 20:54, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I think that sometimes sharing the Archive link just makes it look deeper and find that Robots.txt ... I've encountered that before. Sharing a link that works - and the person that tries it hits the robots.txt page. --Kerya (talk) 20 June 2016
 * Well that sucks. Something to look more into. If WB had the data stored for you and then all of a sudden it disappears then it is WB that is not working the way we think it should. --Dollygirl (talk) 20 June 2016

Got a reply - the sites are "gone for good". --Robkelk (talk) 12:25, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Could folks check the Wayback Machine links, please? I'm getting the downloads again. --Robkelk (talk) 15:34, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I tried with Coffee Time: http://web.archive.org/web/20131025071357/http://www.freeposes.net/freebie-archives/189-free-poses-for-v4 but the download from http://www.filefactory.com/file/cad2889/n/FP_CoffeeTime.zip does not work because of "Page cannot be displayed due to robots.txt" --Kerya (talk) 03 July 2016
 * I'm not surprised that the freeposes.net links don't work - those files were stored off-site and filefactory.com has IIRC never allowed archiving, so those particular freebies are gone for good. It's the freebies from i13posefactory.com (such as Contemplative Poses for Genesis 2 Female / V6) that are available again. --Robkelk (talk) 14:15, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Tried the link from the Contemplative Poses: "Page cannot be displayed due to robots.txt. See i13posefactory.com robots.txt page. Learn more about robots.txt." --Kerya (talk) 04 July 2016

Secondary URLs
Sorry - but how do I get secondary URLs to show up? I added one to https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/LittleOne-Xmas but it doesn't show ... --Kerya (talk) 19 September 2016