Talk:Main Page/Archive 2015-2017

Somebody else has this problem?
I use Opera to browse Internet, and for some reason when I try to add a link tI can't do it. After I type the captcha gives a 404 error. I have put it here because I didn't know where else put it.
 * It's been so long since I've had to use the captchas that I don't know how they work any more. Can you replicate the error in your sandbox? --Robkelk (talk) 13:57, 8 April 2015 (BST)

Upload file option missing in the side bar?
Uploaded a file 2 days ago, after my rights were changed, but now the upload option is not available in the side bar; anything changed?? --Glaseye (talk) 16:29, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * One of the Miraheze System Administrators here: To prevent data loss during server maintenance, I intentionally disabled uploads. That maintenance is over since a few hours, so you can upload again. Southparkfan (talk) 21:40, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Direct links to zipped files?
I recently found that some downloads of Muskateer Graphics (mostly second skin superhero textures for V3/M3) have been preserved in the web archive. Unfortunately the site never had individual pages for each download, only a general index. Should I add a link to the index, or direct links to the sipped files? The same goes, for anything similar that I may find later. --AntonioCC (talk) 09:01, 26 August 2016 (UTC)


 * As long as people can reach the downloads, either way works. For examples, see Freebies hosted at 3DTrue (where the Wayback Machine links are to the index pages) and Freebies by Ness Period Reproductions (where the Wayback Machine links are directly to the zip files). My personal preference - not wiki policy - is to link straight to the zip. --Robkelk (talk) 13:07, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.--AntonioCC (talk) 15:06, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Risky, nudity, sexual content pages (POLICY DECISION MADE)
What is the policy towards pages with pictures that contain nudity/are risky? There is a lot of Chibibel and Belbel content here: http://kedama.sakura.ne.jp/freebie/Index.htm ... --Kerya (talk) 20 September 2016
 * Oh, yes - that site. When I was posting the ChibiBel list to the Daz3D forums, Chohole and I agreed to pretend that we just didn't notice it... but that isn't going to work on a wiki that anybody can edit.
 * We have some rules about making our own images, listed at Category:Page Needing Image. "No sexualization of minors" is the applicable one here. I think that we should be consistent.
 * Can we link directly to the downloads, or would that mean people don't see the license for the freebies? --Robkelk (talk) 12:12, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately there is no Readme included in the zips - so direct links would not see the licenses ... --Kerya (talk) 21 September 2016
 * Well, most of all I would go for a better safe then sorry option. Personally, I get the impression that some japanese(?) sites have content that can be questionable by european standards, or maybe even european law.... (Don't know about the law, 'standards' are of course a very subjective/personal matter). But in general, if anything can be looked upon as sexualization of minors, regardless if it is a fantasy character or not, I would say no links to the image/sitepage and the content..... Also better no links to the more 'suggestive' images. So that may mean if a direct download link is not possible, it would be best to not mention it at all...--Glaseye (talk) 19:45, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Japanese sites, yes - there's a vastly different mindset in Japan with regard to seeing this sort of thing. I'm told that it's because of the post-WWII constitution imposed on the country by the Allies. The Japanese take the "freedom of speech" part of the constitution very seriously. (If parents don't want their children seeing something, they don't show it to their children.) In the Western world, we accept some limits on freedom of expression.
 * The law in Canada is clear in one respect: if the images on that site were on this wiki, I could go to jail. it is less clear whether making available the resources to create those images is against the law. As for mentioning that the resources exist and saying where they can be found ... I don't know.
 * I'm inclined to agree with Glaseye. --Robkelk (talk) 23:17, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem - no links to pages with "no sexualization of minors. What about simple nudity of grownups? Could we get a sign like the direct download or paid for content? Maybe NSFW https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Safe_for_Work --Kerya (talk) 25 September 2016
 * That's easy enough, and it's already on my "to be done" list. --Robkelk (talk) 12:36, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

An icon like this??? Http://home.caiway.nl/~wedge/afbeeldingen2/NSFW.png Got a bigger version that can be scaled down if needed it his one is usable, but too small.... --Glaseye (talk) 23:14, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * That's a good icon for European work, but North American signs are different. --Robkelk (talk) 15:51, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

POLICY DECISION: We will not be listing anything from this website. I have asked our wiki host to add the URL to the "blocked sites" list - see https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T861 for details. --Robkelk (talk) 16:09, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe delete the link (text) from this discussion page as well??
 * As to the icon, I see your point... Do you still need an icon? (got another one that I think is more international, based on the 'stop' sign) http://home.caiway.nl/~wedge/afbeeldingen2/NSFW-klein.png
 * Or do you already have something better? --Glaseye (talk) 16:54, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm still thinking about that. We can use stop-sign logo for now, and replace it if we come up with something better. --Robkelk (talk) 13:21, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Could somebody who does not have administrator rights try to add that link to a page here, please? --Robkelk (talk) 13:21, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I could add that link to the Limited Time freebie page (going fast section), and it worked. removed it again. If you want me to try again (not deleting the link) just say so.. --Glaseye (talk) 13:52, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * As for the stop sign logo, should I upload it? --Glaseye (talk) 13:54, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I can see the blacklist, the link as visible there (to me) is not a working link, but not that difficult to determin what the real link is.... --Glaseye (talk) 14:05, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Repeating what I said before the wiki crashed... I'm still thinking about what might work as a good logo. Sure, upload the NSFW icon - we can change it if we come up with something better. --Robkelk (talk) 22:43, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Done [[File:NSFW.png]] --Glaseye (talk) 16:06, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Still working on the blacklist?? --Glaseye (talk) 16:09, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * That's on hold until the other wiki problems are sorted out. --Robkelk (talk) 13:12, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Input wanted, please. Which image is better, Glaseye's stop-sign or this one that I finally had time to make? --Robkelk (talk) 01:22, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I think Glaseye's image is a clear comment on what will happen if you click on the link but your image is just to darn cute. Anyway you could incorporate the two? Get both the cuteness and the danger sign? --Dollygirl (talk) 12:37, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It took me a while to make a decision. (Granted, nobody was pushing me to decide... but I still should have decided earlier that I did.) Glaseye's image is the icon, while my image is on the description page. --Robkelk (talk) 01:59, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

New "welcome" page - please add to it if you have time
We have a new page, intended for new editors: Notes for new editors. It's still a work in progress, which is why I haven't linked to it from the Main Page yet.

Some parts say "THIS NEEDS AN ANSWER" - if you have an answer, feel free to add it.

If I missed a question, feel free to add it.

--Robkelk (talk) 19:43, 23 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I'm not really useful for this... guess I'm one of those person that not always do things the way they should be done, but doing it the way they can be done (by me LoL).. --Glaseye (talk) 23:10, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

You used to have a sample page for a new page where did it go? --Dollygirl (talk) 04:00, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Forum/Page_Templates --Kerya (talk) 01 November 2016

Links to download pages?
I mean links to pages like mega or mediafire. I recently found that somebody had mirrored the old JamesJAB V4 Asari headpiece on mediafire, and I wanted to know if there is a problem to link it here. Thank you. AntonioCC (talk) 16:59, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * As long as it's a legal download, the host doesn't matter. (I'm not happy about how MediaFire doesn't allow saving in the Wayback Machine, but that has nothing to do with this wiki.) --Robkelk (talk) 18:45, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks.AntonioCC (talk) 18:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

What to do with a freebie that is under two different names?
Esample: https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Hunter_Medallion_for_Genesis_3_Male_and_Female is under Wolf Medallion for Daz Genesis3 Freebie here: https://kayleyss.deviantart.com/art/Wolf-Medallion-for-Daz-Genesis3-Freebie-641321906 Is there something like a cross reference? --Kerya (talk) 23 March 2017
 * Yes, it's called a "redirect". Pick one name for the page that describes the freebie and make that page normally. Make a second page with the second name and put only the redirect code on that page.
 * Since we already have the page "Hunter Medallion for Genesis 3 Male and Female", the page "Wolf Medallion for Daz Genesis3 Freebie" would say only . It's very important that the word REDIRECT be in all capital letters and preceded by a #
 * --Robkelk (talk) 12:59, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --Kerya (talk) 24 March 2017