Talk:Aircraft

Sooo, I guess it's time (for me) to take a more indepth look at dpl statements :) That auto-generated list is quite handy. On the other hand, I use the manual lists to create a new page quickly; add the new, non existing, page in the list, preview, and click on the red link to create the new page.... (edit the new page), save the preview and done..... Time to think, observe and learn... --Glaseye (talk) 18:45, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Not trying to make you do something you don't want to. You can go back to the old way. As for your work flow I did the same for the animals. I usually leave the manual list on the page until such time as I have gone thru the list that was created of things that need a page. Once the auto-generated list is up and running I don't update the manual list. Just cause I am lazy. After I clear the backlog then I remove the manual list. You will have to Purge the page which has the dpl statement, as you work, to get it to update. This is just a suggestion, change it back if you would rather. With the figures and their supporting freebies, poses, wardrobe and the like and there being more then one person working on these resources not all "main" pages were getting updated. Hair was one of them. If you use the dpl statement then all you have to think about is making the page. Makes it nice and simple. For creating pages down the line I started to put stuff in my sandbox. I noticed that there were certain things I would need, such as animal pages for MostDigitalCreations. He has made tons of animals and like you I would just copy paste from one animal page to another. Make the appropriate changes, links, description, title but categories, author, license would be the same. So dpl statements are pretty cool. https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/User:3doutlaw/sandbox has other examples for using dpl statements.--Dollygirl (talk) 19:56, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * A word of warning: our wiki host has decided that any wiki with more than 40,000 pages is too big to run dpl. We're only at 13,000 pages now, but if we keep making pages (and we will), it'll only be a matter of time until we have to go back to making the lists manually. --Robkelk (talk) 11:14, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Did they give a reason for this limitation?--Dollygirl (talk) 18:52, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Regardless of the reason; that's still 27000 pages to go. And -at present- with one 'main' editor and a few 'minor' editors, I'd say there's still a long way to go... (How long did it take to get to 13000 pages. And that was with one more 'main' editor.) --Glaseye (talk) 20:07, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The problem is the category structure and how to apply it to a page. Our design right now presents data to the user of the wiki in an organized way such that a person new to freebies or an old hand has a way to get the information they need in the construct of being a 3D artist and structure of the wiki is as simple as possible. By possible I mean we aren't killing ourselves with the editing of said data. Take for example Conforming Pregipessa hair. It is free, created by Mairy, designed for Victoria 3, refits for Michael 3 and Victoria 4, has addon textures, is a long hair and has a little crown. In dpl space it can be in lists and galleries for any combination of the individual categories we currently use. With the limitation imposed of 40,000 pages we know 1) we will diffidently hit that mark with the current big list pages we have. 2) If we are forced to abandon the dpl statements then what ever new design we come up with we could have to rework everyone of those 40000 pages. So I will think about this some more. I have the beginnings of a plan I just need more time to think about how to keep things simple for an editor and still useable for the users. When I finalize the plan I will give it to Rob and he can ask our sponsors to take a look and see if there are any issues, limitations, and such that requires modifications to the plan. I will also publish the plan on the wiki and ask for comments from us here on the wiki.--Dollygirl (talk) 23:06, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The reason fr the cap is resources - dpl is expensive to run, and Miraheze can't afford another server to run it on. Yes, it'll take a while to get to 40,000 pages, but eventually we will get there. --Robkelk (talk) 12:29, 4 November 2021 (UTC)