User talk:Robkelk

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And We're Back!
Well, back as of Mid-June - we've lost thee months of updates.

We're good to go now... --Robkelk (talk) 18:26, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * While we still don't have all the content back, I think we now know almost everything that we're missing. At least we know what to work on while we aren't adding new content to the wiki. --Robkelk (talk) 19:24, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


 * With the loading of the previously-lost pages from June and July 2015, I suspect we now have all the pages we're going to get from any offline source. Everything else that's missing, we'll have to re-create. --Robkelk (talk) 01:14, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

All pages exported - Wiki Backup
The last time (UTC) I exported the entire text to my home computer was: 20170113184700

The last time (UTC) I exported the images to my home computer was: 20160227163200

This is less important to do, now that the wiki hosting service is taking regular backups of the wiki: https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/issues/48#issuecomment-202352846


 * Question: how do I create a backup, at least for a page with subpages that I heavily edited just now (See V1-2 wardrobe)? --Kerya (talk) 06.06.2016


 * Here's the step-by-step:
 * Make a list of the names of the pages and subpages that you want to back up, with only one pagename on a line. (Special:AllPages is an alphabetical list of all pagenames; the names in italics are redirects to other pages.)
 * Make sure you're logged in, and surf to Special:Export
 * Ignore the box "Add pages from category". Copy that list you made in step 1, and paste it into the big box. The default settings for the three checkboxes are good if you want the current pages - if you want the edit history as well, uncheck "Include only the current revision, not the full history"
 * Click on "Export", and save the file.
 * That will give you an XML file, which somebody who knows HTML can use to make a text file. It will not save the images - you'll have to save those one at a time. --Robkelk (talk) 13:43, 6 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the step by step! --Kerya (talk) 7 June 2016

Wiki import
1.26 upgrade is planned at the ~24th. If you have luck, I can import some pages before the 31th (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, btw.) - otherwise it will happen in January. Hopefully that's fine for you. Southparkfan (talk) 17:48, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That's fine, thanks. I'll take an export before the 24th, just in case. --Robkelk (talk) 00:33, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Export has been taken. --Robkelk (talk) 16:47, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Another export has been taken - less than ten minutes before the maintenance window. This talk page should be the only page on the wiki that is not backed up to the current revision. --Robkelk (talk) 15:55, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Bug filed: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123075. I hope it gets solved soon, otherwise you won't get the backup running. Southparkfan (talk) 17:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Robkelk, please look at https://poserdazfreebiestest.miraheze.org. Please make me aware of any errors. If you think that nothing went wrong in the import process here, then we can schedule a read-only period for the real Poserdaz and Freebies Wiki so I can import this XML dump. Southparkfan (talk) 12:57, 10 January 2016 (UTC)S
 * I did some spot-checks, and everything seems good to me. I'll take another export of the text anyway, just in case. As for scheduling a read-only period, our busiest periods for updating are 05:00-09:00 UTC and 23:00-01:00 UTC - the 23:00-01:00 period is primarily my update window, so we can use that if necessary. --Robkelk (talk) 17:03, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The latter period is (for me) 00:00-02:00, and that's unacceptably late for me. This update needs to happen at a Friday or Saturday between 18:30 and 20:30 UTC +0. The wiki would only need 30 minutes read-only time (5 minutes backup, 20 minutes import, 5 minutes checking). Southparkfan (talk) 17:34, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was unclear - the times I gave are the times when we make most of updates to the content. Putting the wiki into read-only mode on Friday between 18:30 and 20:30 UTC +0 should not be an issue. (Saturday between 18:30 and 20:30 UTC +0 might or might not be an issue.) --Robkelk (talk) 00:40, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you schedule a final date (and notify me about it)? And put it in the sitenotice too, obviously. Southparkfan (talk) 14:27, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll schedule Friday, 22 January between 18:30 and 20:30 UTC +0 for the import. --Robkelk (talk) 00:15, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I've just taken an export of the entire wiki as it stands now, just in case. --Robkelk (talk) 14:00, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Not needed Previllages
You have added yourself to the groups "autopatrolled, confirmed and rollbacker", which are not required as you get them within the "administrator" previllages.
 * My rights were like that when the wiki was set up. Oh, and welcome to the wiki - do you have any links to share? --Robkelk (talk) 17:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Site-loading issues via phone
First, I want to say that an external forum is not the proper way to report bugs, we have a wiki for that. Anyway, the errors are interesting: it seems that your BlackBerry lacks SNI support. SNI is a very useful thing that allows us to have multiple SSL certificates hosted on a server with one IP. Extra server IPs (at least $5/month per site and a lot of trouble with RIPE) or SAN (depending whether GlobalSign wants to give us SAN certs for free, this can costs literally hundreds of dollars each year, even if we wouldn't go with GlobalSign) are not an option for Miraheze. We have our *.miraheze.org certificate set as the "default_server", which means that even clients without SNI support can use HTTPS for *.miraheze.org wikis.

For example, the Wikimedia Foundation has a very, very rare SAN certificate (used on all wikis). If you visit the English Wikipedia, you'll notice that it just works.

If I have to believe the Wikipedia article, it looks like SNI support was introduced in BlackBerry OS 7.2. If possible, you should update your OS to make use of SNI.

HSTS is a mechanism we enable via server headers, which is used to protect our users (on all domains - including *.miraheze.org and allthetropes.org) from certain attacks. Our HSTS policy has a max-age of 28 days (which means that HSTS will be in effect until 28 days), which is why even disabling HSTS for allthetropes.org wouldn't really make sense yet. HSTS also prohibits the usage of invalid certs, which is why you can't 'click this error away'.

Please let me know if you are able to fix this issue. Southparkfan (talk) 14:01, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * First, if the issue was with this wiki, I would have reported it through meta. I'm not the person who should be reporting technical issues for allthetropes - GethN7 is, and my contact for him is through that external forum.


 * Second, Blackberry OS 7 never had a version 7.2 - development stopped at 7.1, and IIRC that was a beta. It looks to me that Wikipedia needs an update.


 * I fully support using HSTS. I remember what happened to Orain. I will live with not being able to access allthetropes on my cellphone. --Robkelk (talk) 14:35, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I have discovered while testing various anti-virus software that the latest version of Avast! working with the latest version of Firefox also does not like HSTS. I have uninstalled Avast!, but others might be wondering why they cannot access the site. --Robkelk (talk) 15:23, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Multi-upload tool?
Is there any chance of getting the multi-upload tool back now that we're settled in on miraheze? I must admit I don't know much about how that sort of thing is done.--Fielran (talk) 02:20, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure - Miraheze is more security-conscious than Orain was (for good reason), so they don't allow all of the extensions that we used to be able to get. And I know they have a backlog of requests ... but I can ask. --Robkelk (talk) 15:14, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I have asked. --Robkelk (talk) 15:36, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Official reply: "MultiUpload is currently disabled on all wikis, because it's breaking things and it is currently unmaintained." We're looking into alternates. --Robkelk (talk) 12:31, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * We have a replacement! Edit a page - the "Drop files here" box at the top of the edit window is a multi-file upload tool. --Robkelk (talk) 13:05, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

ironman links
Hey Rob on the wayback links I only get the can't display page due to robot text. So maybe you being in Canada can see it but me in the USA can not. Maybe we should have a talk with ironman and see what we can do about re-establishing a home for them or just retire the pages if we can't. Lonnie
 * That's odd - I checked the links from two different computers before I posted them. (Both in Canada, true.) And, yes, we should get in touch with ironman about them... --Robkelk (talk) 23:16, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Page cannot be displayed due to robots.txt. - I am in Germany ... --Kerya (talk) 19 June 2016
 * And now I'm seeing the same message. Sending a Rendo sitemail to ironman13... --Robkelk (talk) 20:54, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I think that sometimes sharing the Archive link just makes it look deeper and find that Robots.txt ... I've encountered that before. Sharing a link that works - and the person that tries it hits the robots.txt page. --Kerya (talk) 20 June 2016
 * Well that sucks. Something to look more into. If WB had the data stored for you and then all of a sudden it disappears then it is WB that is not working the way we think it should. --Dollygirl (talk) 20 June 2016

Got a reply - the sites are "gone for good". --Robkelk (talk) 12:25, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Could folks check the Wayback Machine links, please? I'm getting the downloads again. --Robkelk (talk) 15:34, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I tried with Coffee Time: http://web.archive.org/web/20131025071357/http://www.freeposes.net/freebie-archives/189-free-poses-for-v4 but the download from http://www.filefactory.com/file/cad2889/n/FP_CoffeeTime.zip does not work because of "Page cannot be displayed due to robots.txt" --Kerya (talk) 03 July 2016
 * I'm not surprised that the freeposes.net links don't work - those files were stored off-site and filefactory.com has IIRC never allowed archiving, so those particular freebies are gone for good. It's the freebies from i13posefactory.com (such as Contemplative Poses for Genesis 2 Female / V6) that are available again. --Robkelk (talk) 14:15, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Tried the link from the Contemplative Poses: "Page cannot be displayed due to robots.txt. See i13posefactory.com robots.txt page. Learn more about robots.txt." --Kerya (talk) 04 July 2016

Secondary URLs
Sorry - but how do I get secondary URLs to show up? I added one to https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/LittleOne-Xmas but it doesn't show ... --Kerya (talk) 19 September 2016
 * Call it Alternate URL, not Secondary URL. (It's far too late to change the template, alas.) --Robkelk (talk) 00:40, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Help please
Hey Rob do you happen to have copies of any of my freebies, like the Cinco de Mayo, the toy theater etc? Last month I had a head crash and lost everything that I was working on and some of my past projects. Think you could help me get some of it back? Thanks for any support you can give. Lonnie --Dollygirl (talk) 17:08, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I keep copies of my downloads, but I don't have them sorted in any meaningful way. I'll have to let my computer crawl my archives to see what I have from you - which will take a few days. --Robkelk (talk) 22:35, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Oh thank you!--Dollygirl (talk) 04:22, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Aargh. I have readmes for more than one of your freebies, but the only zip I can find in my archive is "DollyGirlTexs for DCM RagDoll.zip" --Robkelk (talk) 12:06, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for looking Rob. That project was on a different drive and I have that one. I really appreciate your help. There are other ways to see if I can get back those zips. I will try them next. --Dollygirl (talk) 12:06, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Another freebie site rescued from the Wayback Machine - with two items for unidentified figures
Freebies by Byron Taylor lists all of the freebies that I could find in the Wayback Machine from byrontaylor.com - over a dozen "golden oldies." (Including seam guides for V1 and a rather naughty item for SP3... who knew?)

If anybody knows who these two freebies are for, please update the page, and add those freebies to the figure's page or figures' pages. I've already added the glasses to the Glasses page.

--Robkelk (talk) 00:07, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The heart glasses 'almost' perfectly fits V3, so my guess is they're made for it, but it does need slight adjustment. As it is a prop I would consider it to be usable on many models... so not specifically for V3 alone... Put it with V3 anyway??
 * --Glaseye (talk) 14:05, 9 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Sounds good to me - Byron Taylor did have some V3 freebies on the site, after all. Thanks for the help. --Robkelk (talk) 14:45, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

(BLOG) We finally have a page that's bigger than the list of hairdos
I knew Chohole made a lot of textures, but I didn't know she'd made that many...

Free Resources by Chohole has unseated Hair/cr2, hr2 and duf conforming and prop hair as the largest page on the wiki.

--Robkelk (talk) 16:11, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

(BLOG) Working on turning the index lists into indexes of pages
I've been working on making pages for individual freebies, because people can search for words in the descriptions of the individual items. we're going to end up with many, many pages... but I think it's worth the work. --Robkelk (talk) 03:30, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Excellent idea Rob. Will make your life so much easier and the site will look very professional with the new design.--Dollygirl (talk) 17:00, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * "Very professional" is what I'm aiming at, yes. If we look like a proper index, we have some minor advantages when it comes to copyright law, as a research site. --Robkelk (talk) 00:00, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * G3M and G3F now have their wardrobe completely listed this way, as do a few other figures who only have one or two freebies. V4's wardrobe is close to having a complete set of "catalog pages" - then I'll work on M4 and A3's wardrobe. (G3F, G3M, V4, and M4 appear to be the most popular figures at the moment, and everybody knows that I♥A3.) This will take a while; there's over 400 pages to go just for these three figures, and over 1,000 more pages for the free wardrobe for everybody else. Once wardrobe's done, then I'll look at poses, morphs, and hair. And then there's props, lights, and cameras... This will probably take months or years to complete. --Robkelk (talk) 15:49, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * V4's wardrobe is done. I count 105 pages to make for M4's wardrobe, and 245 pages to make for A3's wardrobe, as of this posting. (I only count 24 pages to make for Lolo Hai's wardrobe... maybe I'll do that first.) --Robkelk (talk) 21:53, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * People keep finding wardrobe for G3F, G3M, and V4... and one of those people is me.  (Keep the listings coming, please!) As of this posting, each listed outfit for those figures has its own page, and I count 80 pages to make for M4's wardrobe, 230 pages to make for A3's wardrobe, and 36 pages to make for Lolo Hai's wardrobe. Maybe I should work on the pages for the less-popular figures. --Robkelk (talk) 00:52, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
 * M4's wardrobe is done... except for what's listed only on the Star Trek wardrobe page. --Robkelk (talk) 17:01, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Just finished indexing justlastknight's ShareCG pages
That was a big one - not as big as Chohole's pages, but bigger than average. However, the list only has the ShareCG links on it, with a very few exceptions.

Anyone feel up to adding the Renderosity links?

--Robkelk (talk) 00:00, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

(BLOG) ChibiBel turns 10 this year
ChibiBel turns 10 this year. As a present, I've just finished making individual pages for each of her freebies (except for the textures for ChibiBel and School Set) - although many of those pages still need images. Does anyone want to help with the pictures? --Robkelk (talk) 21:35, 2 January 2017 (UTC)


 * 10 years already... (about the same as my 'involvement' in 3d :) ), but alas, anime is really not my thing. (But I'll try to do some more on/for the aircraft pages...... been absent waaay to long now)--Glaseye (talk) 18:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Looks like database is not updating category content
Hey Rob, it looks like when you click on one of the autogenterated pages that the database is not updating what is contained on the page. You added more pages to One-piece clothing category but when you click on the autogentered page your additions are not being included. I have the same problem with my addition in Fetishwear. I noticed yesterday they were having problems with the database are we still trying to recover from that issue? --Dollygirl (talk) 16:55, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks like it is a bit slow is all --Dollygirl (talk) 17:36, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * That's been happening on and off all across Miraheze lately. They're looking into it. The category-update program is separate from the database, though. --Robkelk (talk) 13:52, 21 February 2017 (UTC)